Mayor Nasser Pangandaman, SHAME ON YOU..
I read this a few days back and was hesitant to write about it but it kept haunting me, If this happened to me, what would i do?
At around 1:30 PM today, at Valley Golf and Country Club, Antipolo City, Mayor Nasser Pangandaman, Jr., Mayor of Masiu City, Lanao del Sur, his father, Secretary Nasser Pangandaman of the Department of Agrarian Reform, and company, beat my defenseless 56-year-old dad and my 14-year-old brother to a pulp because of some stupid misunderstanding on the golf course.
The story has been picked up even by mainstream media and continues to spread around the blogsphere.
Other Stories and comment can be read here:
- FilipinoVoices.com – Scandalizing The Suffering: The Pangandaman-Dela Paz Melee
- These Bastards Have To Pay
- The Golf Incident: The Trouble with Mirrors by baratillo.net
Here is the list of the related posts to the mauling incident -
- Mayor Nasser Pangandaman Jr. (DAR chief’s son) Mauled A Father & Son at Valley Golf and Country Club
Photo screen cap taken from this GMA news video
After all the bombing and stress it is causing, you here news like this… it is very disheartening to know that people that feel like they are “entitled” or maybe a better term would be to call it feeling like “royalty” and lording it over everyone.
I know it is only but fair that we welcome the side of Mayor Nasser Pangandaman, an explanation is in order. Why did it lead to all this?
Watch the Video – http://www.gmanews.tv/video/33923
Watch the ABS CBN Video on the featured Video on the right side of this page.
There are more pressing concerns at the moment like security and how to cope with a financial crisis… a story like this just throws you off your seat!
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sounds familiar. i hate to label people, but this is very common, especially the line, “tatandaan kita”. the words of the arrogant whose language is violence.
as a mindanaoan, i feel so bad for mr. de la paz and his family. i hope they find justice.
justice will only be found in the NPA!
ganyan talaga ang ugali ng mga taong iyan, matapang lang dahil may bodyguard at may mga baril…pasalamat sila at hindi ganyan ang ugali natin mga xtian…
Please sign a petition here for Resignation of Pangandaman’s:
http://angkapatiranparty.org/index.php?id=26&no_cache=1&tx_fepetition_pi1action=sigAdd&tx_fepetition_pi1uid=13
totoo sabi nila pag mataas ang katungkulan.
I was also bullied by a retired daughter GENERAL
I had never answered back…….
another politician playing god. i just don’t see how one can justify beating a 14 year old kid. no matter how a kid provokes you it’s not right to beat him up especially when you’re running around with bodyguards with guns. so to the pangandamans, your excuse is stupid. you’re an idiot to even justify it and a coward to do that. these pangandaman family are men with no balls at all. they go around as if they own the world (if they’re with their bodyguards). these family is a classic example of a corrupt politician who has an ego problem. the pangandaman family is another embarrasment to the arroyo government. i support the call for their resignation as a matter of delikadeza.
Mr. Secretary,
Better learn to control your children and their bodyguards. Humility and logic should always be your guide.
They will be your folly.
Why is this issue being about RELIGION and RACE…? kaya lumaki ang gulo kasi mga taong walang magandang comment. This is an issue about a misunderstanding which led to misunfortunate incident. Let us not show prejudice by giving comments that may aggravate the situation. Based from most, if not all the comments display discrimination in general because the Pangandamans are from Mindanao and specially they are Muslims. Let us stick to the issue and not show IGNORANCE of what we do not know. There is an investigation being conducted to find out what really happened and if the Mayor is indeed guilty….then let Justice prevail.
Wag na kayo magbigay ng kung ano anong comment at makigulo pa. Taking sides will just create more chaos. If you want support to the De La Paz or Pangandamans, find the truth and than give your comments in more professional manner. Hindi dahil kapareho niyo ng relihyon o pinsan niyo sila, may karapatan na kayo manira.
dapat talaga ituloy ang kaso sa mga abusadong politiko na yan. kurakot na abusado pa. paano aasenso bansa natin. nakakaawa talaga ang mga nakakarami dahil walang kalaban laban sa mga abusadong politiko na yan. MASASABI KO SA MAG AMANG PANGANDAMAN NA YAN AT MGA TUTA NILA……. MAKAKAPAG TAO KAYO SA MATA NG TAO PERO HINDI SA MATA NG DYOS. IYON AY KUNG NANINIWALA KA SA DYOS OR PAKIRAMDAM NYO AY KAYO ANG DYOS. MANIWALA KAYO SA KARMA DAHIL TOTOO ITO.
I tried to keep an open mind and tried not to take sides, but when I heard Sec. Pangandaman spreaking on t.v. today arrogantly telling or ordering bloggers to stop commenting about the incident, I said who does he thinks he is? Does he thinks he is above the law and somebody who is special? Last time I checked, there is still free speech in the Philippines, and Filipinos must be vigilant and must protect this basic human right.
Also, are the Pangandamans cowards and need the protection of their bodyguards when they go to a golf course?
Politicians and appointed government officials are supposed to serve the public, not the other way around. He is also a datu, therefore he should act like one, a respectable leader of his community. What kind of people would beat up a fourteen-year old boy?
Why is the president been so quiet about this incident? She should order an impartial investigation, if that is at all possible in her administration. Let’s watch what she does in the next few days.
The officer of DAR is greed of power he sould set an example to his fellow Filipino citizen. He should be put behind bars – I got this feeling that he is telling lies and I personally trust the Dela Paz family. The Gloria Adminstration is full of CORRUPTION all her appointees are corrupt and greed of power. The system of government in the Philippines is really rottten. The DAR officer and his son are one of the rotten officer.
To Dela Paz family you have my moral support !
Dapat sa mag amang Pangandaman ay sunugin sa plaza para di na pamarisan pa ng ibang opisyal ng gobyerno na nagaanino berdugo dahil sa taglay na kapangyarihan at mga body guard.bakit di mo subukan tangalin ng pwesto ang mga gago kundi laglag ang buntot ng mga demonyo.kapatid na nasa rebolusyunaryong gobyerno bakit di nyo bigyan ng aksyon yan tanging kayo lang ang pweding asahan ng mga biktima dahil tuta ni gloria ang mga yan.babaon lang sa limot at gagawa lang ng bagong isyu para pag usapan.
This is not a fight between christians & muslims. This is just a misunderstanding between 2 parties. No big deal on this issue. In fact you haven’t heard yet both sides of the stories. Don’t side with anyone. MGA PUTANG INA NYONG TSISMOSO AT TSISMOSA PINALALAKI NYO LANG ANG ISSUE!
Let the proper authorities do their investigation! Kaya hindi na umunlad ang bayan natin dahil sa inyong mga HINDOT KAYONG TSISMOSO AT TSISMOSA!
Sila nagkamali, bayaan nyo silang mag-ayos ng pagkakamali nila! Observe and learn. Wala kayong papanigan! GAMITIN NYO KAHIT KAPIRASO NG MGA UTAK NYO… MGA BOBO KAYONG MGA TSISMOSO AT TSISMOSA!
NAKAKAHIYA KAYO… PINAG-AAWAYAN NYO ANG MGA NAG-AAWAY… MARAMI PA KAYONG DAPAT GAWIN SA BUHAY NINYO. MANAHIMIK NA LANG KAYO! MASAHOL PA KAYO SA MGA HAYOP!
It seems like most people have discarded logic and let their emotions get in the way.
Let us let the courts decide and wait for the fact finding committee to come out with their official story based on their investigation backed up by the sworn affidavits of the witnesses at the country club.
This is a venue to air out your views but please let us all be grown up about the matter and avoid any name calling or branding. This isnt about RELIGION OR RACE.
Tama ka Anakbayan! observe and learn at malalaman mo kung sino ang ang nagsasabi ng totoo at ang nag agrabyado ng tao… isang 56 years old at 14 years old kasama ang 18 years old na anak na babae susugod sa mga pangandaman na may mga kasama pang palamunin (bodyguards) wow! ang tapang naman yata ng delapaz family bwehehehe…. ANAKBAYAN NI SEKRETARY PANGANDAMAN WAHEHEHEHE.
WE SEE A LOT OF ABUSIVE POLITICIANS IN OUR ROTTEN GOVERNMENT & THE PANGANDAMAN’S IS AN EXAMPLE OF HOW POLITICIANS & PEOPLE IN THE GOV’T. BEHAVE IN OUR SOCIETY. THEY HAVE POWER & INFLUENCE W/C THEY ABUSE TO THE ‘MAX’ ! THEY ARE ARROGANT, ABUSIVE & DRUNK BY ‘POWER’ , FORGETTING THAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE ‘SERVANTS’ OF THE PEOPLE.
THE PANGANDAMANS SHOULD NOT COMPLAIN THAT PEOPLE ARE TALKING AGAINST,THEM BECAUSE IF THEY HAVE NOT DONE ANYTHING WRONG, NOBODY WOULD EVEN BOTHER TO SAY ANYTHING.
THEY HAVE CREATED THIS PROBLEM & THEY DESERVE TO SUFFER AFTERALL, A DECENT PERSON WILL NOT BE PROVOKED BY A 14 YEAR OLD BOY ! DOESN’T HE HAVE A GRANDSON OR A SON FOR THAT MATTER?
AAAyy sus ganyan nmn mga nasa pusistion kala mo diyos mag aaasta …. mukha nmn 220 sinasabi nun na argabiado na side eh d dela paz..kita nmn yun video nun batang and older dela paz na mulkhang they were mauled by those 7@7%3$1*1@#~% …..
Now pag na labas sa TV interview yun matandang pangandaman eh kung ano ano sinasabi at gus2 ata palabasin misunderstanding ok cge misunderstanding …Pero dapat ba ng bobogbog ka !!!! puta ina eh kung kayo ka yun and nagulpi tingnan ko lng di kaya umalma tulad ng De La Paz… Nkaka-asar talaga
Kunin nilang witness yun mga security guards sa golf courses and caddies
wag lang sila maunahan nun mga abosado na side….
.kulang ang public apology dapat yun mga ganyan klase ng government offcial, dapat tagalin sa puwesto …wala akong pakialam ke mapa kristiano pa o muslim basta the conduct of that government official on how he deal with the situation was nakakadismaya …. kulang na lng sipain na sa puwesto yan….ganyan talaga asal nun mga nasa governo natin pro kala mo sila ang diyos !!!! PUTANG INA NIYoN LAHAT na abosadong local official ng governo !!!!!
Dapat talaga i2loy yun kaso .GO GO GO GO Dela PAZ !!!!!. we be are behind..
This isssue is too simple to be solved. Yeah, I agree that this is not about race nor religion.
I just want to get the attention of Senior Pangandaman, if you are really apologetic about what your son and his bodyguards did to Mr. De la Paz, then be sincere with your desire. Ooops, the word “sorry” must not be used here, since that word has been abused and misused by a lot of people in power just to justify their tyranny. People in power hides behind the blanket of people-given authority by voting them.
My point? Here: MAGPABUGBOG KA DIN SA MAHIGIT NA LIMANG TAO, PATADYAKAN MO DIN SA HARAP MO YUNG ANAK MONG KASAMA MO SA GOLF COURSE FOR YOU TO FEEL THE PAIN AND THE AGONY. Your “sorry” won’t help here. Much more with your denials. Simple lang, PABUGBOG DIN KAYONG DALAWA.
YOU MAY NOT UNDERSTAND THE FEELING OF THE DELA PAZ FAMILY, the feeling of being bullied, self-respect and most of all in watching you helplessly abusing his son verbally.
Uulitin ko lang Senior Pangandaman, MAGPABUGBOG DIN KAYONG MAG-AMA SA LIMANG TAO, PARA MAINTINDIHAN NYO ANG MGA DELA PAZ.
To Valley Golf Course: don’t be unfair. Stand for truth. Takot ba kayo sa Pangandaman clan at sa kanilang high powered guns? Remember, your golf course will never exist without us as your customers. Don’t allow the Pangandaman family and company destroy the reputation of you business.
Watch out!
Walang kwentang mga hayop itong mga pangandaman. Akalain nyong pera pla ng taong bayan ang ginagamit nilang pang-golf. tsk tsk tsk
Gusto pa nilang baliktarin na cla ang naagrabyado sa bugbugang blues na naganap sa valley golf nitong nakaraang disyembre.
Kinakarma na kayo ngyon mga pangandaman hehehe
Ano kaya ang itsura nyo kung lahat ng taongbayan d2 sa pinas e tig-isang suntok sa makakapal nyong mukha?
Ang sarap ubusin ang lahi nyo.
May gana pa kayong mag-counter charge. Bakit dahil tagos hanggang sa maitim nyong budhi ang mga nakasulat ditong blog. hehehe
Simula pa lang ito pangandaman. Marami pa akong isisiwalat na baho nyong mag-ama.
Nandun ako sa site ng gulpihan at nakuhanan ko ng celfon video ko ang kagaguhang ginawa ni pangandaman. thanx at hindi ko pa sya nae-erase. may pagkakataon na akong tumulong sa mga delapaz dahil nagiging mainit na ang isyu. malaking kasiraan ito sa mga pangandaman.
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Anyway ia-upload ko ito sa youtube para malinawan ang taong bayan kung gaano ka-overkill ang ginawa ng mga pangandaman.
Mga kababayan watch nyo na lang sa youtube
buda ka na mama!! wlang hiya ka a maranao ka!!baboy ka!! masyado kang mayabang!! batangan ka na mama..piyaka yaya ka aki!!aydo Allah!! porki nasa pwesto ka eh ganyan nalang gawin mo? mayabang ka..akala mo kung sino kang maranao ka!! ganyan talaga ang mga maranao mga traydor walang magawa sa buhay..
ganyan din langa ang kayang nuilang gawin..ganyan naman ang mga maranao matapang lang kung my kasama pero pag nag iisa talaw din naman..hoy mahiya kang buda ka!! umuwi ka sa bundok nyo at bogbogin mo ang asawa at anak mo tignan natin…
typical filipino politician….throwing his weight around and thinking he is better and more important person than everybody else..going around metro manila in their big american cars and making everybody move to side because he thinks he is more important than the rest of us..AROGANT SON OF A BITCH! Hope you get what you deserve..Kudos to the dela paz family for fighting back..I commend you for your courage and standing up for rights..
THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STORY
Their side has been heard over and over on television, radio and print. The average person who would see, hear and read about their story would indeed feel for them completely, and have nothing but anger and hatred for the other party. I’ve read her blog from her BlogSpot, and they sure sounded like the aggravated party on her blog.
I am posting the incident that happened at the south course of Valley Golf and Country Club that fateful day of December 26, 2008 between the families of Pangandaman and dela Paz. But this is not Delfin’s and his children’s side; I am retelling the details of the incident here on behalf of the Pangandamans.
On December 26, 2008, Friday, at around eleven in the morning, the group of Secretary Nasser Pangandaman registered at the Valley Golf Country Club to play golf. Since there were eight of them playing, they divided into two flights, with the Secretary and his companions on the first flight, and Hussein, Nasser JR and two others on the second. In golf terms, a flight is a division of players within a golf tournament or game. Angelo Pangandaman, Hussein’s eight year old son tagged along with the second flight (Nasser Jr’s), since no one would be able to watch him at the clubhouse.
Nasser Jr and his friend, Farah Locsin arrived late at the golf course and followed their flightmates at Hole No. 4 of the South Course of Valley. It was a convoy of two golf carts, one of which was Nasser Jr’s and the second was the golf marshal’s who was escorting them and the caddies. Here, Bambee narrated in her blog: “My brother and I were playing golf at the South Course of Valley. We were on the 3rd hole, and we see two golf carts going past us, overtaking our flight, and setting up to tee off on the next hole. My dad goes up to them and asks them why they would do that, why they would overtake us without even asking for our permission.” Mr. Delfin dela Paz reacted by protesting at what seemed to be an overtaking of flight, in which Nasser Jr explained to the elder dela Paz that they did not overtook their flight but simply tried to catch up with their flightmates at Hole No. 4. He further explained that they, like the dela Paz’s had earlier lined up to play and were already registered at the flight before theirs. Thinking that things had been cleared up, Mr. dela Paz said, “Okay, kortesiya lang” (”Okay, just seeking courtesy“) .
When the 2nd flight of Nasser Jr. already played hole no. 4 which is a par 3, and Nasser Jr. was still outside of the green trying to pitch his ball into the green, the flight of dela Paz hit their shots into the green which almost hit Hussein without shouting “Fore!”. In golf terms, “fore” is a word of warning yelled out by a player who has hit an errant shot. If your shot is in danger of hitting or landing very close to another player or group of players on the course (for instance, if you slice a ball into an adjoining fairway), you should yell “fore!” to warn players to watch out. Surprised, though sensing trouble which they deemed to choose to avoid, they allowed the other dela Paz player to hit his shot so they can peacefully resume and concentrate on their playing. At this point, the caddy of Nasser Jr also took the 8 year-old Angelo to stay behind the golf cart to avoid being hit by golf balls coming from the dela Paz players.
On Hole No. 5, after the 2nd Pangandaman flight hit their drives into the fairway and before they could hit their second shots, the dela Paz players again hit their drives without warning the Pangandamans. Puzzed and surprised, they asked among themselves why the flight behind them were doing this to them as they could be hit by their (dela Paz’s) golf balls. When Nasser Jr’s flight reached the green of Hole No. 5 and after holing out, they joined the 1st flight of Sec. Pangandaman and took their break at the teehouse. During their break, the marshal approached Nasser Jr, stating that the dela Paz’s were complaining that there were five of them in their group and why they overtook the dela Paz flight. Nasser Jr. reiterated to the marshal what he had already explained to the elder del Paz, to which his knowledge the former had already accepted his explanation. Unconvinced with what the marshal had relayed that there were only four and not five in their flight and that they did not overtake as they just went back to the clubhouse and later join their flight, the elder dela Paz approached Nasser Jr, obviously agitated at this time and pointed a finger at him and accusing him that there were two carts in their flight and that they (Nasser Jr) overtook them. This confused the younger Pangandaman, as he had already explained back at Hole No. 4 that they did not do so. He asked in a most respectful manner that he thought that they already had an understanding. Mr. dela Paz at the top of his voice accused him that Nasser Jr was wrong and began shouting profane words at the younger Pangandaman, saying, “P***** i** ka! Member ka ba dito, ha? Hindi mo ba ako kilala?” (”S.O.B! Are you even a member here? Don’t you know who I am?!”) In a calm voice and without revealing that he is the Mayor of Masiu, Lanao del Sur, Nasser Jr respectfully asked Mr. dela Paz why he was raising his voice at him when they were not arguing. The elder dela Paz reacted “Ikaw ang naghahanap ng away!”(”You’re the one looking for a fight!”), while pulling his umbrella and thrusted the pointed part and hit the belly of Nasser Jr, who backed up. This incident happened in front of the marshal who tried to interevene, but Mr. Delfin dela Paz pressed on, thus prompting Nasser Jr’s older brother Hussein, to come to his brother’s defense. Mr. dela Paz hit Hussein on the forehead and the two engaged in a fist fight.
Meanwhile, Nasser Jr., tried to prevent the two younger dela Paz from joining the fight but they got away from him and went in between their father and Hussein. The dela Paz siblings were able to hold Hussein preventing him to reach the elder dela Paz as if trying to pacify the two. Yet, Bino Lorenzo dela Paz kept punching Hussein in the face and Marie Dhel dela Paz from behind kept on scratching his face. At one point Mr. Delfin dela Paz even got a golf club driver and tried to hit Husseinbut Mr. Rene Maglanque was able to pry the club away from him. When Hussein turned his back on the elder dela Paz, Bino then got a golf club and tried to attack Hussein, but Nasser Jr was able to block Bino with his left arm, but hit his left hand. Sec. Pangandaman, Rene Maglanque, and another golfer from a different flight pacified everybody and asked the dela Paz’s to just leave them to prevent further trouble. Mr. Delfin dela Paz called someone in his cellphone and gave orders to come to the clubhouse because they’ve just had a fight with someone.
The dela Paz’s then left the golf course. Losing interest in the game as it was spoiled by the fight, both Sec. Pangandaman’s and Nasser Jr’s flights also returned to the clubhouse after about ten minutes. Hussein, attaining a bump on the forehead due to a punch by Mr. Delfin dela Paz and scratches on the face and neck, hurried to the men’s locker room to relieve himself and wash his wounds from the scuffle. But Mr. Delfin dela Paz blocked his path to the locker room and told him in a threatening voice that it wasn’t over between them and that he’ll take revenge. Hussein, obviously still angry from the brawl that ensued at the golf course asked why they still hadn’t left yet, when Bino again, pleaded not to hurt his fifty-six year old father, and him who’s fourteen, but with fists ready to punch. The Secretary’s elder son was engaged in another scuffle with the father and son followed by Marie Dhel, who came from behind Hussein, scratching him on his right cheek, neck, ear, while pulling and tearing his shirt.
The security and other golfers in the clubhouse who witnessed the encounter separated them, and as soon as that happened, Mr. dela Paz again shouted invectives at Hussein. Around this time, a loud commotion was heard by the entrance; it was Mrs. dela Paz and her two sons. The sons had with them baseball bats, and Mrs. dela Paz, in a house dress (duster), had with her a bladed weapon, all three looking as if ready to assault. The other golfers and security held them off so as to completely stop the fight. At this point, Sec. Pangandaman told his sons to leave already and the dela Paz’s to stop and leave, so that no more untoward incident would happen. The Pangandaman’s party had to leave through the parking exit because the dela Paz family was waiting for them at the clubhouse lobby.
I’m pretty sure that most, if not everyone, has already read the blog that Bambee dela Paz posted on her blog page. And I’m pretty sure that most, if not everyone totally sympathizes with the dela Paz family regarding the mauling incident allegedly initiated by the Pangandamans. But may I ask, before those hurtful comments were hurled at the DAR Secretary, the mayor of Masiu, Lanao del Sur, the rest of their family, and Muslims as a whole, did the people even bother for just a second to think what the other side had to say? Did they even bother getting information from the Pangandaman’s camp after reading Bambee dela Paz’s blog? I BET THEY DID NOT.
I just have a couple of more questions. If Mr. dela Paz and his children have been playing golf for such a long time now, then they should know their golf etiquette by heart now. If they are professional players, then why did they hit their drives WITHOUT giving any warning to the flight before them? Isn’t it a given to golfers to shout “Fore!” to players who may be potentially hit by the ball since they are in the way of it? Could they have forgotten to warn them TWICE?
Weren’t they supposed to NOT hit their drives unless the golfers before them are OUT OF THE GREEN?
And since it was a holiday, why did the dela Paz flight pushed to play on the golf course when A FLIGHT OF TWO IS PROHIBITED TO PLAY ON THE COURSE DURING HOLIDAYS as per club regulations? Does that mean they are exempted from the rules and regulations of Valley Golf and Country Club?
How can they claim that their flight was overtaken by Nasser Jr’s when they had registered to play on a flight before the dela Paz’s? Do you think the marshal will even escort Nasser and his friend to the golf course if that was really the case?
Why would Nasser Jr complain to the marshal about the dela Paz’s alleged slow playing as stated on reports when his flight is BEFORE theirs?
Why did Bambee leave out the part of what happened at Holes 4 and 5 and just continued her blog on the teehouse? Could she have forgotten to put in her blog that she was also part of the brawl on the course and hurt the older Pangandaman son? Your nails must be pretty long, Ms Bambee, those cuts dug in deep into Hussein’s skin.
Would Bambee even bother blogging about the incident that took place in Valley Golf had they had a tip-off with some other Christian elitist and not Muslim politicians like the Pangandamans? Would the media and the public pick up the story and show the same volume of sympathy for the dela Paz family if the other party concerned were just average, private Non-Muslim citizens?
Would the public still claim Mr. Delfin dela Paz and his children to be brave and courageous people if they had known that they already have a record of run-ins with other patrons of Valley Golf?
Do you seriously think that a person who works as a public official would actually put his reputation on the line over a game of golf regardless of faith or be for or against the administration?
Why are your statements inconsistent, Mr. dela Paz? Reports from different sources seem to vary. From what I know, a person who has had a traumatic experience has vivid recollections of the events that took place.
Like they said, it all started from a small misunderstanding. Had Mr. dela Paz accepted the explanation given to him by Nasser Jr. back at the course then none of this would have happened. This isn’t a case between an underdog and the powerful and mighty. This is a case between right and wrong. The dela Paz family claim that a lot of people have witnessed what took place. That’s what the Pangandaman family think too. Let those people speak up then! But to make quick judgments and accusations against the Pangandmans, politicians, and even Muslims in general, without enough knowledge and proper basis regarding both sides of the issue is just ridiculous and shows ignorance on your part. I am, just like everyone, am praying for this to be resolved.
The truth WILL prevail. Justice WILL be served.
—if this post doesn’t clear a little cloud on your head or your heart, then I doubt if there would still be PEACE between us (Christians and Muslims.) Coz clearly, nothing we say ever gets heard. . . if ever heard, you guys often take it wrongly. Try to take a shot at listening to us, we’re not evil pinheads, we’re Muslims… human beings. We’re not always as bad as the media projects us to be.
sayo FATMA kuno
why are so hatred? galit na galit ka iha… naanakan ka ng mga maranao.. sorry, ayaw kasi nila sa katulong.. eheh
ke AKO KARMA MO..
ilabas mo na dong yung kalabaw at wag kang sawsaw dito.. too low ang baterya ng utak mo… eheh. para kang langaw na nakaamoy ng maantot.. eheh
at sa inyong mga walang masabi dahil kulang sa kaalaman… go to hell… sa mga dela paz… kawawa naman sila. di niyo alam ang ugali ng mga dela paz… mga mayayabang na mga elitist maynila kala nila e lahat e kaya nilang bangain kaya ayun nag pa presscon dahil di niya kinaya ang nakatapat niya… bute nga.. sa anak niyang si bambee si iha… gamitin mo net sa pagpapakaawa… tahan n iha
kala ko mga mahirap ang mga dela paz.. kelan pa naging laro ng mahirap ang golf? kelan pa naging skul ng mahihirap ang lasalle at pa US USA pa.. mga saksakan ng kasinungalingan.. buti nga sa inyo.. mayayabang… puro scripted naman ang pakita sa tv… paano singaling na puso.. whehhh
at kayong mga naawa ke bambee… pls pakipulot ang IQ sa sahig. kung bugbugin ba ng mga bodyguards ni pangadaman ang siblings ng dela paz… di kaya sila naka WHEELCHAIR… pilipinas gisinggggggg
fatma ule malay ule.. marigae ule… kiyotah pls…
OH MY.. I OBSERVED SOMETHING…
WHY IS IT ALL AGAINST KE PANGADAMAN ANG BLOGS NA ITO..
HHHMM.. WE SMELL SOMETHING FISHY HERE…
WELL, THIS MUST BE SPREAD OUT ELSEWHERE..
THIS ILIGAN.PH. YOU’RE BIASED MAN…
It seems like most people have discarded logic and let their emotions get in the way.
Let us let the courts decide and wait for the fact finding committee to come out with their official story based on their investigation backed up by the sworn affidavits of the witnesses at the country club.
This is a venue to air out your views but please let us all be grown up about the matter and avoid any name calling or branding. This isnt about RELIGION OR RACE.
—– THIS ALL SHIT…..
AT SA LAHAT NG WALANG ALAM AT NAGMUMURA..
MAS KAYO..
MGA BABOY.. MGA DOG EATERS… KAYA KINAKARMA ANG PILIPINAS DAHIL SA KABABOYAN NIYONG LAHAT…
concerncitizen – Have you read the story posted on Dec 31
The real story behind the valley golf and country club incident by Indz Badelles
http://www.iligan.ph/?p=237
Im sorry i didnt read it.. what about it? how can access on there, pls assist.
And now I have seen my posts..
I am really sorry admin..
As I read the comments again… It is very obvious that most of people here are bias. Tama kayo na un mga PANGANDAMANS ay may position sa GOVERNMENT, may pera sila (Apparent) at un mga DE LA PAZs are just small people ( that’s how they described themselves) doesn’t mean na we are talking about POWER and how people TAKING ADVANTAGE of someone lower than them.
Karamihan ng comment dito identify the PANGANDAMANS are people of POWER and can do anything to anybody pero that doesn’t mean the incident happen that way. It is also true na dihado ang mga DE LA PAZs which was seen by all of us in the news. Wala naman talagang laban un mag-amang DE LA PAZs. PERO PWEDE RIN KASI SILA ANG NAGSIMULA NG GULO which provoked the PANGANDAMANS to retaliate.The older DE LA PAZ thought na dahil medyo bata lang un kabilang grupo akala niya pwde nya silang baliwalain. But then again, I might just be speculating because I am not present at that time.
I am not taking sides here but giving the benefit of the doubt to the PANGANDAMANS because they are being singled-out due to their status. I also would like to let BAMBI know na getting sentiments from people can be done on other ways. Masyado siya kasi nagmamakaawa sa tao through the media. It gives LA SALLE COMMUNITY a bad name. What you’re doing is dividing people and making the situation worst by involving the media. You are just showing an excuse na di niyo kaya lumaban ng patas. The reason why I’m saying this is because I haven’t heard any reaction from the PANGANDAMANS doing the same action that the DE LA PAZs are making which is involves personal attacks to the other side. Seeing that just makes me doubt the DE LA PAZs being the impaired side. Why don’t you just file your grievances then provide all your evidence na kayo ang nasakatan rather than crying in the media kasi binugbog kayo (which they claimed to be).
How this incidents is seen, whether the PANGANDAMANS are proven GUILTY of whatever they are being accused of or being cleared of what happened…It is obvious that they have lost because how what was perceived of them.
ang pag kaka alam ko dyan ay ung mga dela paz ung nag cmula, at tsaka kung talagang nabugbog nga cla eh di sana pinapakita nila ung mga panget nilang muka, mayayabang pa naman din ung mga yun,. 14 years old na 5″8 eh mukha ng mama yun eh,. nag tutusok kasi payong ung tatay na dela paz eh. tsaka pakita nila muka nila kung talagang bugbog. bka naman wala lang at nagiinarte lang ung mga yun. palibhasa ngayun lang nka hawak ng golf club. kaya kung maka asta eh mayaman na.
Shame on the Maranao Pangandaman. I know how they behave like, and they are like animals in the forest eating shits. I encountered Hussien Pangandaman and mind this he missed with a bitch irish Barria from Cagayan de oro and in fact they have a son. What a shame in this world.
Sana hindi na sila bubuhayin ni Lord, sana putolan na sila ng ulo ni Allah. Ay naku, katulad lang sila ni Mohammed na mga duwag. Bakit nakipag away sa bata at sa matanda, kung matapang sila, then they should go to Gaza and fight with Israel. Shame on them. Thick face Moros. IQ level is negative and just wondering why Nasser became a Cabinet Secretary???
Now, I think it becomes an issue of culture. I am calling all Christian to defend the Dela Paz and curse the Pangandamans.
I am also calling the ombudsman to check Nasser Pangandaman, why he is able to acquire properties in Misamis Oriental particularly in Initao, in where he owns a beach house costing to 5 millions or so.Is this a people’s money put into in his own pocket. What a thick face Moro!!!!!
Again, I am asking all christian to condemn this act of cowardliness by the moros.
This is not about race or religion.
any further hateful comments to both parties involved will lead to locking down this comment thread.
if you have nothing better to say, please dont say it and keep it to yourselves.
Thank you.
kahit ano pa sabihin nyong papuri sa mga pangandamans wa epek na dahil nagmamakaawa na ang mga pangandamans na wag silang suspendihin …. hahahaha buti nga sa inyo : )))))
guys.. ehh kht d nmn polititian c nasser, gnun pren gagawin un.. kc nanguna nga daw ung dela paz.. dba d nyu ba npapancn ung mga klos nla.. ung gurl lgi ang nagsasalita.. mga cnasabi nlah pniplit or umaact lng cla just 2 see their faces in camera just to expose them selves.. sabi2x cla nah mhrap cla eh nag gogolf cla.. tsaka d ka nmn mambubugbog kung walang gnwa sau dba?? think!!! porket politician bad nah.. at kea nmn ndamay ung bata kc lumaban ung bata.. kung mkkta nyo mnpaka tanggkad nung bata.. atsaka ung mga bodyguard nmn nksli.. natural kya nga body guard, nkta nla my awy xmre 22long cla.. alangan nmn tgnan lng nla ung ngyayari.. lot of common sense.. kwawa nmn ung ibang tao d2 walang common sense.. at hnd mrunong mg analyze.. kwawa nmn kau..
khazz.. ur exatcly ryt..
agree..
d kau mkaintindi.. WALALNG BUGBUGAN!!!! AWAY YOON! KUNG MAY MGA UTAK KAU ALAM NYO IBIG SABIHIN NON!!! ISPIN NYO NGA..
MY POSITION OH WALA KAPAG INUNAHAN KA NATURAL LALABAN KA..
NAKAKAINIS.. HINDI NA TLAGAH MRUNONG MAG ISP MGA TAO NGAUN.. NKAKAAWA MGA KATULAD NYO.. PORKET POLOTICIAN MASAMA NA.. ISIPIN NYO MAGKAPREHO CLA NG RELIGION AT NG POSITION MAG AAWAY KAU KPAG MAY NAUNA!!
Look who’s talking. Basically, maranaos are born stupid. They got high plae in the government because they paid for it. Like now, the Pangnadamans got into the cabinet in exchange of the 2004 election. They were very part of the Arroyo’s vote buying and electoral fraud. Gracellano and Pangandaman work hand-in-hand during the election, that’s why he was able to get the cabinet secretary.
Now on the issue of dela paz, do you think that the 56 year old man, 14 year old boy and 16 year old girl would have the courage to fight the pigs. i dont think so. Maranaos are coward by nature, they will not fight alone but asking the whole clan to fight for them instead. If they are brave I challenge the Pangandaman to go to Gaza and fight with the Israel, I will give them free airfare and plus hotel accommodation in Gaza.
Maranaos are not only coward but messy people. They are the dirtiest people in the country, they spit anywhere, poo anywhere, especially at the lake and mind this they are PIGS. That’s why they don’t eat pigs because they are one. Mohammed eat pigs and he loved eating pigs during his time at the desert. Because he found it delicious he forbids the Muslim to eat pigs.
How awful with people like Maranaos so, to all christian, ifd you see Maranaos, kill them!!!!!!!!!!! But before killing them, let them eat pigs first. LOL
To Hussein, take care of your damn son with Irish Barria, rahter than fighting for defenseless people. If you think that you can withstand the Christians, I dont think so. You were the worst low I.Q, student that I have. Your English is worst and your grades flanked. shame on you PIG!!!!
Now, to Ali who left a comment on this blog, come on,your a moron, dirty, coward. Welcome to Marumi City, Langao del Sore.
hayaan ang courte maglabas ng desisyon tungkol sa katapangan ng mga nasa puder kasi may panahon sila’y dadapa rin diba mga tol.
Correction pls….as much as we have bad maranao you have more bad christians. Dont just generalized that maranao’s are bad no one has the right to judge the people.
To all filipinos, reading this aricle seems, everybody is judging the muslims with arrogance. We are forgetting, that we are filipinos in one nation. As an adult we should really act as one, bu it seems the truth here is, kon sino pa and matanda, siya and nagsi-simula nang gulo and shaming the other side. When the other side is very respectful and trying to settle in a betterway. We should really, let it go. But the old man is vendicted. So, please readers… do not always jump into conclusion and judgemental. Matanda should be a good example for the young generation. Not all maranaos live like nomads, they’re intelligent and always fight for the rights. Based on the history the first american scholar is a muslim. We judge but we are all the same.
hello
im new on this forum….
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